<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/"
	>

<channel>
	<title>Emergence Media &#187; Viral Marketing</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.emergence-media.com/category/viral-marketing/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.emergence-media.com</link>
	<description>Between the Internet (Social Media) and Marketing</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:12:13 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5</generator>
	<language>en</language>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
			<item>
		<title>Responding to Rubel: Word of Mouth and the Tipping Point</title>
		<link>http://www.emergence-media.com/2008/04/word-of-mouth-vs-tipping-point/</link>
		<comments>http://www.emergence-media.com/2008/04/word-of-mouth-vs-tipping-point/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 08:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel R</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Commentary]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Social Media]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Strategy]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[User Behavior]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Viral Marketing]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.emergence-media.com/?p=176</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[
The past five years have been marked with &#8220;social&#8221; and &#8220;viral&#8221; buzzwords about how to best do marketing and advertising. We&#8217;ve been hearing everything from &#8220;Tipping Point&#8221; and&#8221;Mavens&#8221; to lots of mentions of &#8220;influencer&#8221; and &#8220;A-List Bloggers&#8221;. Yet, the increasingly popularity of these terms also breeds confusion. That&#8217;s how I feel about Steve Rubel&#8217;s latest [...]


No related posts.

Related posts brought to you by <a href='http://mitcho.com/code/yarpp/'>Yet Another Related Posts Plugin</a>.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.emergence-media.com/img/blog/sr-peers.gif" alt="" /></p>
<p>The past five years have been marked with &#8220;social&#8221; and &#8220;viral&#8221; buzzwords about how to best do marketing and advertising. We&#8217;ve been hearing everything from &#8220;Tipping Point&#8221; and&#8221;Mavens&#8221; to lots of mentions of &#8220;influencer&#8221; and &#8220;A-List Bloggers&#8221;. Yet, the increasingly popularity of these terms also breeds confusion. That&#8217;s how I feel about Steve Rubel&#8217;s latest posting called &#8220;<a href="http://www.micropersuasion.com/2008/04/trust-in-peers.html" target="_blank">Trust in Peers Trumps the &#8216;A-List,&#8221; Study Finds&#8217;</a>&#8220;.</p>
<p>In it Steve Rubel writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>There&#8217;s an ongoing debate online and in marketing circles as well over who &#8220;matters&#8221;: the super node influencers or basically anyone that a particular peer group looks to for information, entertainment, inspiration and more.</p>
<p>This meme got kicked around in the &#8217;sphere a few weeks back when Duncan Watts released some research that contradicts Malcolm Gladwell&#8217;s theory outlined in The Tipping Point. <strong>Today, however, there&#8217;s new data that to me may just reveal that Watts is right. The key factor, once again, all comes down to trust. </strong>(Emphasis is mine.)</p></blockquote>
<p>His specific evidence?</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.showArticleHomePage&amp;art_aid=79873">Mediapost reports</a> that a new study from Pollara found that people who engage in social networks and communities put far more trust in friends and family who are online than in popular bloggers, or strangers with 10,000 MySpace &#8220;friends.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Unfortunately, Steve Rubel is conflating several separate issues on what is Word of Mouth, an influencer and an &#8220;A-Lister&#8221;.</p>
<p><span id="more-176"></span></p>
<p><strong>What Do We Mean by Word of Mouth, A Listers and Influencers</strong></p>
<p>Let us set-up our definitions (at least according to me):</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Word of Mouth is the Strength of Personal Trust</strong><br />
Word of Mouth works because you generally trust someone you know more than a stranger. So yes, you&#8217;d probably trust your friend more than a blogger off the Internet.</li>
<li><strong>A-Listers *does not equal* Word-of-Mouth</strong><br />
A popular media publisher (be it a blogger or CNN) does not correlate to a high-trust factor. Just because <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com" target="_blank">Mike Arrington</a> is a popular blogger doesn&#8217;t mean I trust everything he says. Yes, he has immense influence in terms of audience reach, but just not necessarily trust.</li>
<li><strong>Influencer does not mean A-Lister: Remembering 150<br />
</strong>Malcom Gladwell talked about Connectors, Mavens and Salespersons &#8211; not &#8220;A-Listers&#8221; or &#8220;Popular Bloggers&#8221;.</p>
<p>Indeed, Gladwell dedicated a chapter to &#8220;150&#8243;: the ceiling level of how many social relationships a person can have. A person with &#8220;10,000 MySpace Friends&#8221; does not count. You trust your actual personal friend, not the guy who is &#8220;friends&#8221; with 10,000 people on MySpace. The &#8220;10,000 People on MySpace&#8221; guy is able to pass information quickly, but not necessarily influence decisions directly.</li>
</ul>
<p>In short, you probably need the mass audience of an A-Lister to connect with the influencer (connectors, mavens, salespersons), who tell their friends what to buy, etc. The A-Lister is the medium.</p>
<p>So rest assured, Malcom Gladwell&#8217;s &#8220;Tipping Point&#8221; is not wrong. Nor is the study that the MediaPost article cites forcing us to choose between the &#8220;Tipping Point&#8221; and Word-of-Mouth&#8217;s emphasis on the trust of friends and family.</p>
<p>And what about Steve Rubel mention that people said  &#8220;Duncan Watts released some research that contradicts Malcolm Gladwell&#8217;s theory&#8221;?</p>
<p><strong>Duncan Watt: Does he really say &#8220;No&#8221; to the Tipping Point?</strong></p>
<p><a title="Firestorm from Flickr User SLWorking" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/slworking/1706914596/" target="_blank"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2403/1706914596_5bb3958ba0_m.jpg" alt="Firestorm from SLWorking" width="240" height="160" /></a></p>
<p>Duncan Watt&#8217;s criticism of the &#8220;Tipping Point&#8221; has been overblown in proportion. Watt never said that there is no such thing as influencer. What Watt is reminding us that an endorsement by an influencer is <a href="http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/122/is-the-tipping-point-toast.html?page=0%2C5" target="_blank">no guarantee that a large trend will start</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align: left;">Perhaps the problem with viral marketing is that the disease metaphor is misleading. Watts thinks trends are more like forest fires: There are thousands a year, but only a few become roaring monsters. That&#8217;s because in those rare situations, the landscape was ripe: sparse rain, dry woods, badly equipped fire departments. If these conditions exist, any old match will do. &#8220;And nobody,&#8221; Watts says wryly, &#8220;will go around talking about the exceptional properties of the spark that started the fire.&#8221;</p>
</blockquote>
<p style="text-align: left;">Following the analogy above, Watt is not saying that you shouldnt worry about dry wood and sparse rain. He&#8217;s just saying that that only a few fires become large forrest fires each time.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">If anything, all of this just affirms the 80/20 rule. Even with similar conditions, there&#8217;ll be lots of small fires but only a few major, raging firestorms. And not everything a trendy person will say will become trendy, but enough will for people to pay attention.</p>


<p>No related posts.</p>
<p>Related posts brought to you by <a href='http://mitcho.com/code/yarpp/'>Yet Another Related Posts Plugin</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.emergence-media.com/2008/04/word-of-mouth-vs-tipping-point/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>6</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Defending SEO: Why SEO loves Social Media &amp; Linkbait</title>
		<link>http://www.emergence-media.com/2008/02/defending-seo-why-seo-loves-social-media-linkbait/</link>
		<comments>http://www.emergence-media.com/2008/02/defending-seo-why-seo-loves-social-media-linkbait/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel R</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Commentary]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Linkbait]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[SEO]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Social Media]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Social Media Marketing (SMM)]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Social Media Optimization (SMO)]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Strategy]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Viral Marketing]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Word of Mouth]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.emergence-media.com/2008/02/defending-seo-why-seo-loves-social-media-linkbait/</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[
Steve Rubel of Micro Persuasion caused a stir in the SEO community last week by declaring that &#8220;SEO Shenanigans Pose a Clear and Present Danger to Social Media&#8220;, writing:
&#8220;I have recently witnessed a disturbing trend. Some respected experts are advocating launching social media marketing programs solely for the purpose of influencing search engines, rather than [...]


No related posts.

Related posts brought to you by <a href='http://mitcho.com/code/yarpp/'>Yet Another Related Posts Plugin</a>.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="text-align: center"><img title="SEO loves Social Media" alt="SEO loves Social Media" src="/img/blog/seo-loves-social-media.jpg" /></div>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://steverubel.typepad.com/about.html">Steve Rubel</a> of <a target="_blank" href="http://www.micropersuasion.com/">Micro Persuasion</a> caused a stir in the SEO community last week by declaring that &#8220;<a target="_blank" href="http://www.micropersuasion.com/2008/02/seo-shenanigans.html">SEO Shenanigans Pose a Clear and Present Danger to Social Media</a>&#8220;, writing:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I have recently witnessed a disturbing trend. Some respected experts are advocating launching social media marketing programs solely for the purpose of influencing search engines, rather than with the intent of fostering collaboration and genuine communication.</p></blockquote>
<p>Having started this blog because I saw the increasingly link between SEO and Social Media, Steve and I are definitely on the opposite sides of the fence here. But, I think we can unite behind three central arguments:</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>We Marketers, Advertisers and PR People donâ€™t make Social Mediaâ€¦</strong><br />
What makes something viral or social is how involved the people get with the media. There are no such things as â€œViral Vidoesâ€ or â€œSocial Networksâ€ unless people use them. What we make has have to be interesting, authentic and worthy of being passed on to friends.</li>
<li><strong>â€¦But we can help encourage Social Media to happen easier.</strong><br />
As PR, Marketers and SEO folks: our role is to only encourage â€œword of mouthâ€ and social media participation, we cannot create it; thatâ€™s what â€œSocial Media Optimizationâ€ is about. But to not to inform clients on the benefits of â€œAdd to Del.icio.us linksâ€ or â€œStart a Blog to start a buzzâ€ would be a failure of the part of the Agency. Of course, we must align tactics (Social Media) with goals (Building Community, Links) and the appropriateness (building real content people want to talk about) of the overall strategy.</li>
<li><strong>Social Media and ROI: What do you tell the COO &#038; CEO?</strong><br />
In the end of the day, many clients ask â€œWhatâ€™s the ROI on this?â€. To say weâ€™re going to use â€œSocial Media to be part of the Communityâ€ will not cut it for many C-Level executives. Tell them that going long term on Social Media mans better SEO, Word of Mouth, Brand Awareness and Customer Service will make them listen.</li>
</ol>
<p><strong>Like Google Says: &#8220;The best way to create good links is to have good content&#8221;</strong></p>
<div style="text-align: center"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannysullivan/548136525/"><img width="294" height="185" title="Google wants Good Content, Good Links" alt="Google wants Good Content, Good Links" src="/img/blog/google-loves-links-content.jpg" /><br />
A Google Ad: From Danny Sullivan&#8217;s Flickr Stream<br />
</a></div>
<p>As long as the SEO drive for &#8220;linkbait&#8221; (creating content to attract people to link back to the site) serves to create relevant and authentic Social Media content people will be interested in, the Community will benefit. The Community will quickly discern what&#8217;s worthy of being talked about, and what&#8217;s not. That&#8217;s the power of Word of Mouth and Social Media.</p>
<p>Read more on other points where I take a differing view from Steve:</p>
<ol>
<li>Social Media Spam: Just from SEO people?</li>
<li>The SEO Community has been in Social Media  as long as PR has, even <strong>Google encourages linkbait and writes on being Diggable</strong></li>
<li>Social Media as SEO: Social Media is the Ultimate Search Engine Algorithm</li>
</ol>
<p><span id="more-170"></span></p>
<p><strong>1. Social Media Spam: Just from SEO people?</strong><br />
Steve is worried about how every SEO person will join Del.icio.us, vote on StumbleUpon and start blogs and twitters in some vague hopes of getting more links and getting better SEO. SEO spam is a real danger, but Social Media already has it&#8217;s own problems.</p>
<p>Last year, <a target="_blank" href="http://www.techcrunch.com/">TechCrunch</a> featured an article entitled &#8220;<a target="_blank" href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/22/the-secret-strategies-behind-many-viral-videos/">The Secret Strategies Behind Many â€œViralâ€ Videos</a>&#8220;, which basically walked through a process of how to game and spam YouTube for viral video marketing success:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Every power user on YouTube has a number of different accounts. So do we. A great way to maximize the number of people who watch our videos is to create some sort of controversy in the comments section below the video.We get a few people in our office to log in throughout the day and post heated comments back and forth (you can definitely have a lot of fun with this)&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;Also, we arenâ€™t afraid to delete comments â€“ if someone is saying our video (or your startup) sucks, we just delete their comment.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>What this shows is that Social Media has always been targeted by shady Social Media Marketers and has always been under the fear of someone trying to &#8220;game&#8221; Social Media for publicity, branding, eyeballs on videos and links for SEO. Sony&#8217;s fake blog called &#8220;<a target="_blank" href="http://www.searchviews.com/index.php/archives/2006/12/sony-fake-blog-worse-than-mcdonalds-blog-walmart-blog-lonelygirl-combined.php">All I want for Xmas is a P2P</a>&#8221; comes to mind.</p>
<p>I think it is unfair to point a figure directly at SEO alone. This is a Social Media problem.</p>
<p><strong>2. The SEO Community has been in Social Media  as long as PR has, even </strong><strong>Google encourages linkbait and writes on being Diggable</strong></p>
<p>Far from what Steve calls a &#8220;disturbing trend&#8221;, SEO&#8217;s love of Social Media has existed at least since 2005 (if not earlier). SEOMoz was one of the first companies talking about linkbait back in 2005: &#8220;<a target="_blank" href="http://www.seomoz.org/blog/rand-how-do-i-make-linkworthy-content">Rand, How do I make Link-Worthy Content?</a>&#8220;, â€œ<a target="_blank" href="http://www.seomoz.org/blog/when-money-cant-buy-you-link-love">When Money Can&#8217;t Buy You Link Love</a>â€Even Google has gotten into the act with declaring in a UK ad that : &#8220;The more people you have linking to your site, the better. And the bet way to create good links is to have good content&#8221;</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannysullivan/548136525/"><img title="Flickr: T-Mobile Pitches Google SEO" alt="Flickr: T-Mobile Pitches Google SEO" src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1433/548136525_ed02125a43.jpg" /></a></p>
<p>In the end of 2006, Stefanie at the <a target="_blank" href="http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com">Google Webmaster Blog</a>, write in &#8220;<a target="_blank" href="http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2006/12/building-link-based-popularity.html">Building Link Based Popularity</a>&#8220;:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Discounting non-earned links by search engines opened a new and wide field of tactics to build link-based popularity: Classically this involves optimizing your content so that thematically-related or trusted websites link to you by choice. A more recent method is link baiting, which typically takes advantage of Web 2.0 social content websites. One example of this new way of generating links is to submit a handcrafted article to a service such as http://digg.com.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>3. Social Media as SEO: Social Media is the Ultimate Search Engine Algorithm</strong></p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve written about in the past, SEO is no longer SEO. It is <a target="_blank" href="http://www.emergence-media.com/2007/02/seo-as-website-positioning-strategy/">Website Positioning Strategy</a>. As noted in the Google Webmaster Blog and Google Guidelines, high rankings in Google comes from strong relevancy: building content people want to view and content people want to link to.</p>
<p>The more strategic goal of SEO is then the same as Social Media:</p>
<ul>
<li>Building an online presence (website to blog to ecommerce shop) with the Community in mind</li>
<li>Building relevant content your audience wants</li>
<li>Understanding how you can participate in that desired community</li>
<li>Be present where ever your potential customers are: optimize for being on Yelp.com, Flickr.com &#8211; not just Google.com</li>
<li>Making your website &#8220;optimized&#8221; for conversion: make it as easy as possible for visitors to buy, register etc</li>
<li>Optimize your site to be portable, linkable, &#8220;mash-up able&#8221; with Social Media Optimization</li>
</ul>
<p>Basically, the above asks &#8220;Can you build an online presence that is open, relevant and active in the community you want to be belong to&#8221;. If you can do the above, you will naturally be a strong leader in building an online brand, brand awareness, customer satisfaction and SEO.</p>


<p>No related posts.</p>
<p>Related posts brought to you by <a href='http://mitcho.com/code/yarpp/'>Yet Another Related Posts Plugin</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.emergence-media.com/2008/02/defending-seo-why-seo-loves-social-media-linkbait/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>2</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Budgets Shifting to Social Media WoM over SEO?</title>
		<link>http://www.emergence-media.com/2007/10/budgets-shifting-to-social-media-wom-over-seo/</link>
		<comments>http://www.emergence-media.com/2007/10/budgets-shifting-to-social-media-wom-over-seo/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 04:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel R</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Facebook]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[SEO]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Social Media]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Social Media Marketing (SMM)]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Social Media Optimization (SMO)]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Viral Marketing]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Word of Mouth]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.emergence-media.com/2007/10/budgets-shifting-to-social-media-wom-over-seo/</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[
Move over SEO, Social Media Marketing has the Cash Now?

Talking with clients and those in the marketing industry, there appears to be an increasing interest in Social Media/Word-of-Mouth at the cost of SEO. Search Engine Optimization has been hot from 2004-2006, but weâ€™re now seeing budgets being shifted to Social Media/Word of Mouth.
Is this true [...]


No related posts.

Related posts brought to you by <a href='http://mitcho.com/code/yarpp/'>Yet Another Related Posts Plugin</a>.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="text-align: center"><img title="Social Media Marketing &#038; Facebook" alt="Social Media Marketing &#038; Facebook" src="/img/blog/SocialMediaGoogleTrends.gif" /></div>
<p><strong>Move over SEO, Social Media Marketing has the Cash Now?<br />
</strong></p>
<p>Talking with clients and those in the marketing industry, there appears to be an increasing interest in Social Media/Word-of-Mouth <strong>at the cost of SEO</strong>. Search Engine Optimization has been hot from 2004-2006, but weâ€™re now seeing budgets being shifted to Social Media/Word of Mouth.</p>
<p>Is this true over your at agency or marketing/PR team? Leave a comment and let me know.</p>
<p><span id="more-153"></span></p>
<p><strong>Some general observations&#8230; </strong></p>
<p><em>Changes in the SEO Industry Landscape</em></p>
<ul>
<li>SEO and PPC resources are being shifted to in-house for corporations, with agencies working more as Search Marketing trainers and consultants</li>
<li>SEO trends have become increasingly more reliant on Social Media; hence, terms like the â€œlinkeratiâ€ coming out from the SEO world</li>
<li>SES San Jose 2007 was an excellent example on the growing emphasis on WoM/Social Media/PR. SES had a whole track dedicated to Social Media.</li>
</ul>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://radar.oreilly.com/research/reports/facebook.html" /></p>
<div style="text-align: center"><a target="_blank" href="http://radar.oreilly.com/research/reports/facebook.html"><img title="Facebook Platform" alt="Facebook Platform" src="http://radar.oreilly.com/images/9780596517700-181x242.gif" /></a></div>
<p><em>Social Media Marketing &#038; the Widget Economy</em></p>
<ul>
<li>Facebook and Widgets have hit the marketing mainstream with the <a target="_blank" href="http://radar.oreilly.com/research/reports/facebook.html">Oâ€™Reilly report on Facebook</a> making it officially the year of Facebook and widgets.</li>
<li>San Francisco Bay Area hosted at least 4 conferences on Facebook and Widgets in the past 3 weeks alone: <a target="_blank" href="http://snapsummit.com/">SNAP</a>, <a target="_blank" href="http://widgetsummit.com/">Widget Summit</a>, <a target="_blank" href="http://graphingsocial.com/">Graphing Social Patterns</a>, <a target="_blank" href="http://communitynext.com/">CommunityNext Platform</a>.</li>
</ul>
<p>How will SEO adapt? Will it finally turn more into a philosophy of website design and positioning rather than a specific marketing discipline?<!--9d2b7cdc8b5e125a8b93b6e423c63163--></p>


<p>No related posts.</p>
<p>Related posts brought to you by <a href='http://mitcho.com/code/yarpp/'>Yet Another Related Posts Plugin</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.emergence-media.com/2007/10/budgets-shifting-to-social-media-wom-over-seo/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>6</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>CommunityNext Viral Marketing Conference Notes and Slides</title>
		<link>http://www.emergence-media.com/2007/07/communitynext-viral-marketing-conference-notes-and-slides/</link>
		<comments>http://www.emergence-media.com/2007/07/communitynext-viral-marketing-conference-notes-and-slides/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 06:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel R</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Community Marketing]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Conferences]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Facebook]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Miscellaneous]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Social Media]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Social Media Marketing (SMM)]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Social Media Optimization (SMO)]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Social Networks]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Strategy]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[User Behavior]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Viral Marketing]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Widgets]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.emergence-media.com/2007/07/communitynext-viral-marketing-conference-notes-and-slides/</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[ 
CommunityNext Viral Marketing: That&#8217;s Dave McClure moderating
Last Saturday, I attended the CommunityNext Viral Marketing conference in Silicon Valley. The Conference, by Noah Kagan and Adam Kalamchi, brought together an interesting array of speakers to talk about Viral Marketing &#8211; from tactics, strategy, philosophy to viral marketing as Facebook widgets to community building.
Most of the [...]


No related posts.

Related posts brought to you by <a href='http://mitcho.com/code/yarpp/'>Yet Another Related Posts Plugin</a>.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="text-align: center"><a target="_blank" title="Photo Sharing" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/emergencemedia/824633987/"><img width="240" height="180" alt="IMG_0136.JPG" src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1363/824633987_557abd740d_m.jpg" /> </a><br />
<small>CommunityNext Viral Marketing: That&#8217;s Dave McClure moderating</small></div>
<p>Last Saturday, I attended the <a target="_blank" href="http://www.communitynext.com/">CommunityNext Viral Marketing conference in Silicon Valley</a>. The Conference, by <a target="_blank" href="http://okdork.com">Noah Kagan</a> and Adam Kalamchi, brought together an interesting array of speakers to talk about Viral Marketing &#8211; from tactics, strategy, philosophy to viral marketing as Facebook widgets to community building.</p>
<p>Most of the speakers ranged from the experienced serial entrepreneurs (Dave McClure: PayPal, SimplyHired) to founders of accidental start-ups (Eric Nakagawa of icanhascheezurger). The atmosphere was very much on the casual side, with some point reaching nearly 1990s dot-com humor with of Adam Rifkin of Booze Mail making a cocktail during a talk to clearly very sharp and serious with Keith Rabois of Slide.</p>
<p>Below are my notes on:</p>
<ol>
<li>Widgets &#8211; Metrics, Key Points on Facebook Widgets</li>
<li>Notes from Keith Rabois, one of the most impressive speaker at CommunityNext (Definitely Read This)</li>
<li>Flickr Photos: Including <a target="_blank" href="http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=powerpoint%20communitynext&#038;w=23346715%40N00">PowerPoint Slides</a> given by Speakers. <a target="_blank" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/emergencemedia/tags/communitynext/">Plus: All Photos of the event</a></li>
<li>Feedback for the next CommunityNext Conference</li>
</ol>
<p><strong>** </strong><strong>General Notes by Theme **</strong><br />
<strong>The Power of Leveraging Existing Networks: iLike v. last.fm</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>The long established music discovery service from 2002, Last.FM, has been quickly overtaken by iLike which grew quickly once it launched the iLike widget for Facebook. (Tom Conrad of Pandora)</li>
<li>Leveraging Existing Off-site Networks: It is a simple feature for your product to ask if the user if wants to import her Gmail Address book (or Yahoo, etc) and see who else is on the site and to &#8220;friend&#8221; existing contacts.</li>
</ul>
<p><span id="more-141"></span><strong><br />
The Appeal of Widgets on User Profiles â€“ Unique, Media, not Technology</strong> (From Jia of RockYou)</p>
<ul>
<li>â€œIt&#8217;s like the first day of highschoolâ€ and you want to show-off how you&#8217;re different.</li>
<li>Think of Widgets as a Media tool and a product, not a technological gadget</li>
<li>It is not about â€œbeing technologically coolâ€ but â€œbeing cool to useâ€</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Facebook v. MySpace Widget Marketing Channels (<a target="_blank" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/emergencemedia/825455842/">Flickr Slide</a>)</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>There are 14 channels (opportunities) for spreading widgets, such as from the mini-feed, refer a friend (shown when adding a widget) and the profile page. (From Jia from Rock You).</li>
<li>MySpace channels were mainly focused on In-Profile, Profile Comments, Bulletin Messages (e.g. &#8220;Your Friend Daniel has added Widget X&#8221;), and Forums (not often talked about, but highly effective).</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>MySpace v. Facebook Differences, Openness (From Jia of Rock You)</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>FaceBook: Users do not necessarily browse around by visiting profiles, they have  more reliance on using the FaceBook Mini-Feed on keeping touch on their friends</li>
<li>In FaceBook, you need to rely on the Mini-Feed to place your call to action, e.g. &#8220;Daniel Riveong has just added the widget ZYZ, you should too&#8221;</li>
<li>In Facebook, a user can only invite 10 friends a day to add a widget, making the friends feel more special</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>UGC Challenges</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>With Yelp.com: Debate the use of paid-reviews to seed reviews. How authentic is it?</li>
<li>Use MyBlogLog, Friendster and Others: Spam. Black-Hat marketers will always look for cheap tricks to hijack a platform for spam marketing tactics.</li>
<li>From Friendster: The need to constant â€œpruneâ€ bad content to help develop the culture of the community and thus the brand</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Miscellaneous Viral and Widgets Metrics</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Booze Mail on Facebook was able to grow its userbase at 30% per day</li>
<li>RocketYou achived 9 million users in Facebook in 1.5 months</li>
<li>Friendster: For every 1 (Exhibitionist) profile, there is 5,000-10,000 (Voyeurs) viewers</li>
<li>Development of Widgets: ranged from 2 days to 4 weeks, using 1-2 programmers.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>** Keith Rabois of Slide **<br />
</strong></p>
<p><strong>Lesson 1: â€œViral Growth is Really Hardâ€</strong><br />
A very, very good reminder that Viral marketing and growth (user adoption) is just not magic and not just putting a YouTube video of a â€œfunny videoâ€ and expecting traffic. It&#8217;s a mix of luck and strategy.</p>
<p>Examples:<br />
Only 1 really great viral video every 6 months<br />
Facebook Widgets: LinkedIn and Yelp.com have 2 widgets each, all have so far failed to reach beyond 4000 users each.</p>
<p><strong>Lesson 2: Knowing the Value of a User:  Viral Marketing v. E-Commerce Projection</strong><br />
E-commerce (Online Retailers) have data on the â€œtangible of usersâ€, and so there is no real need for viral marketing. They know how much they are willing to spend for each user.</p>
<p>In a space where the value of each new user value is unknown viral marketing becomes very attractive; it has potentially the â€œlowest marginal cost for user acquitionâ€. It is the safe choice to go far, when you don&#8217;t know how much you should spend, so you spend as little as possible.</p>
<p><strong>Lesson 3: Is PR helpful in Viral Marketing? Not Really.</strong><br />
Keith felt that the best PR is done in-house, based on his experience and from talking to others. He cites the story that out of 5-6 start-ups in a room, only 1 company raised their hand when asked if they were happy with their PR firm. Other speakers repeated a similar theme.</p>
<p><strong>Lesson 4: Viral/Social Network Structures &#038; Business Model Changes</strong><br />
Yelp was originally an â€œAsk a friend where to eat tonightâ€ referral service. YouTube was more focused as a dating service, but changed after utterly failure in the Los Angeles market. Slides was originally desktop-based before going into the Widget space with Facebook.</p>
<p><strong>** For Next Time: Suggestions for Improvements **</strong></p>
<p>Noah, Adam and the rest of the CommunityNext gang pulled off a heck of a conference. So I&#8217;m providing suggestions here, but in no way are they intended to criticize either the CommunityNext team or their invited speakers. This is stuff both CommunityNext and the speakers will hopefully (I hope that is) find constructive and useful.</p>
<p>Overall, I think a quick 30 minute session on refreshing one&#8217;s presentation skill will go a long way in making many of the speaker&#8217;s performance. We all need reminders! Also, maybe invite folks from the Marketing Agency world too to talk about their experience, especially working with a client to understand the viral/social-media space&#8230;of course, I&#8217;m not suggesting merely me. :)<!--b4d2db142c5a896f790df9210d46207b--></p>


<p>No related posts.</p>
<p>Related posts brought to you by <a href='http://mitcho.com/code/yarpp/'>Yet Another Related Posts Plugin</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.emergence-media.com/2007/07/communitynext-viral-marketing-conference-notes-and-slides/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>2</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>SEO is Dead! Where is Your Audience Searching?</title>
		<link>http://www.emergence-media.com/2007/05/seo-is-dead-where-is-your-audience-searching/</link>
		<comments>http://www.emergence-media.com/2007/05/seo-is-dead-where-is-your-audience-searching/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 08:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel R</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Linkbait]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[SEO]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Search Engines]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Social Media]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Social Media Marketing (SMM)]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Social Networks]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Strategy]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[User Behavior]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Viral Marketing]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Web 2.0]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Word of Mouth]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.emergence-media.com/2007/05/seo-is-dead-where-is-your-audience-searching/</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[
SEO is Dead! Well, maybe your Google SEO
Why is SEO important? Because the majority of people search on the Internet to find thingsâ€¦reviews, contact numbers, shopping etc. But what is Search? Google? Yahoo?
If youâ€™re search engine optimization campaign is targeting Google, then what are you doing about the â€œsearchesâ€ on Del.icio.us, Technorati, StumbleUpon, Yelp, Wikipedia, [...]


No related posts.

Related posts brought to you by <a href='http://mitcho.com/code/yarpp/'>Yet Another Related Posts Plugin</a>.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img title="Other Ways People Search" alt="Other Ways People Search" src="/img/blog/other-ways-people-search.jpg" /></p>
<p><strong>SEO is Dead! Well, maybe your Google SEO</strong></p>
<p>Why is SEO important? Because the majority of people search on the Internet to find thingsâ€¦reviews, contact numbers, shopping etc. But what is Search? Google? Yahoo?</p>
<p>If youâ€™re search engine optimization campaign is targeting Google, then what are you doing about the â€œsearchesâ€ on Del.icio.us, Technorati, StumbleUpon, Yelp, Wikipedia, Oodle and even Digg? Maybe those searches are not for the mainstream (yet), but it maybe where the Linkerati, the savvy â€œInfluencersâ€, go?</p>
<p>Is your SEO really just â€œGoogle Search Optimizationâ€? Have you brainstormed with your marketing team to see if your company, product and/or service needs to do more?</p>
<p><span id="more-129"></span></p>
<p><strong>The Linkerati: Where Are They?</strong></p>
<p>Rand Fishkin has made much about how SEO folks need to make sure their linkbait (and ditto for Viral/WoM campaigns) needs to <a target="_blank" href="http://www.seomoz.org/blog/the-secret-to-ranking-at-the-search-engines-thats-really-no-secret-at-all">cater to the Linkerati audience</a>, the savvy online influencers who create and forward content.</p>
<p>But moving beyond finding what appeals to the Linkerati, is the need to find out where are they online, We need to diversify our thinking on 1) how where/how they create content; and 2) how they find content.</p>
<p>Recently, <a target="_blank" href="http://valleywag.com/tech/notag/beyond-blogs-256580.php">ValleyWag noted</a> that while the number of active blogs tracked by Technorati has stagnated â€œpersonal publishing is still growing, but the fastest growth is occurring on social media propertiesâ€, such as MySpace, Digg, Yelp, and Twitter. Indeed, a recent study suggests that â€œ40% of all social networkers said they use social networking sites to learn more about brands or products that they likeâ€.</p>
<p>Questions to Ask:</p>
<ol>
<li>Where are my customers? Who are the influencers within those circles?</li>
<li>Where do they search?<br />
(Do they search on Yelp, Technorati, Digg or Del.icio.us?)</li>
<li>Have I distributed my content there?<br />
(E.g. Placement of Yelp, Blog on Technorati, Content on Digg, Bookmarked on Del.icio.us)</li>
<li>Is it searchable? Or, simply, Findable? Is it â€œoptimizedâ€?</li>
</ol>
<p><strong>Counter Point: Who needs the Linkerati? Web-2-What and Big Seed Marketing.</strong></p>
<p>There is the question of how important the Linkerati crowd is in shear physical numbers and how important the Linkerati and influencers are in general.</p>
<p>In Mayâ€™s Harvard Business review, Duncan Watts and Jonah Pertti <a target="_blank" href="http://harvardbusinessonline.hbsp.harvard.edu/hbsp/hbr/articles/article.jsp?ml_action=get-article&#038;articleID=F0705A&#038;ml_issueid=BR0705&#038;ml_subscriber=true&#038;pageNumber=1&#038;_requestid=42514">proposed the idea of â€œbig-seed marketingâ€</a> as opposed to &#8220;Influencer&#8221;-based viral marketing, which:</p>
<blockquote><p>combines viral-marketing tools with old-fashioned mass media in a way that yields far more predictable results than â€œpurelyâ€ viral approaches like word-of-mouth marketing.<br />
â€¦<br />
big-seed marketing harnesses the power of large numbers of ordinary people, its success does not depend on influentials or on any other special individuals; thus, managers can dispense with the probably fruitless exercise of predicting how, or through whom, contagious ideas will spread.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>The Tiny Linkerati </em></p>
<p>According to a <a target="_blank" href="http://www.webknowhow.net/news/press/070423SocialNetworkingStudy.html">Pew Internet May 6 study</a>, 49% of the US audience are those that have â€œfew &#8220;tech assets&#8221; and limited use of technologyâ€. The survey goes on to show how little of the US audience are among the Web 2.0 Internet savvy. They are so little of them. Is it worth the effort on being on Yelp, Twitter, Digg, MySpace etc to appeal to them?</p>
<p><em>Of Course, It Depends</em></p>
<p>It is important to understand that you can create online marketing success without getting caught in the buzz about about &#8220;influencers&#8221; or the Linkerati. It depends what market your client and your customers are in. Of course, innovation carries risk &#8211; but this is not to forsake the long-hanging fruit for risk taking and vice-versa. You need both.<!--badb40ba9de42b5bb0201be999832a36--></p>


<p>No related posts.</p>
<p>Related posts brought to you by <a href='http://mitcho.com/code/yarpp/'>Yet Another Related Posts Plugin</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.emergence-media.com/2007/05/seo-is-dead-where-is-your-audience-searching/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>6</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Limits to Viral Marketing</title>
		<link>http://www.emergence-media.com/2006/10/limits-to-viral-marketing/</link>
		<comments>http://www.emergence-media.com/2006/10/limits-to-viral-marketing/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel R</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Viral Marketing]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.emergence-media.com/2006/10/limits-to-viral-marketing/</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[
Natasha Robinson points to a very interesting study from the Information Dynamics Lab at Hewlett-Packard Labs. The research paper, led by, can be found here: &#8220;Dynamics of Viral Marketing PDF&#8221;.
Eric Kintz of HP blogged about the paper and below I comment on his take on the paper:
#1 &#8211; Viral marketing does not spread well. In [...]


No related posts.

Related posts brought to you by <a href='http://mitcho.com/code/yarpp/'>Yet Another Related Posts Plugin</a>.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="/img/blog/hp-viral-prod_rec_netwk.gif" /></p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.thatgirlfrommarketing.com/">Natasha Robinson</a> points to a very interesting study from the <a target="_blank" href="http://www.hpl.hp.com/research/idl/"><u>Information Dynamics Lab</u></a> at Hewlett-Packard Labs. The research paper, led by, can be found here: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.hpl.hp.com/research/idl/papers/viral/viral.pdf">&#8220;Dynamics of Viral Marketing PDF&#8221;</a>.</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://h20325.www2.hp.com/blogs/kintz/archive/2006/09/17/1612.html"><span id="ViewPost_ascx_PostedBy">Eric Kintz</span> of HP</a> blogged about the paper and below I comment on his take on the paper:<br />
<em><strong>#1 &#8211; Viral marketing does not spread well. </strong>In epidemics, high connectors are very critical nodes of the network and allow the virus to spread. In recommendations networks, a few very large cascades exist but most recommendation chains terminate after just a few steps.</em></p>
<p>Comment: In other words, while there are many &#8220;nodes&#8221; for connections there are few influencers (or &#8220;mavens&#8221; in Tipping Point speak&#8221;).</p>
<p><em><strong>#2 &#8211; The probability of viral infection decreases with repeated interaction. </strong>Providing excessive incentives for customers to recommend actually weakens the credibility of those links. The probability of purchasing a product increases with the number of recommendations received, but quickly saturates to a constant and relatively low probability.</em></p>
<p>Comment: This touches on two points &#8211; social media saturation and diminishing return. I think the effect of <a target="_blank" href="http://www.emergence-media.com/2006/07/social-media-saturation/">social media saturation</a> will be an underestimated factor limiting social media marketing, but effecting the WoM space in as whole rather than say a specific marketing campaign.<br />
<em><strong>#3 &#8211; Viral effectiveness varies depending on price and category. </strong>Social context has a high influence on the potency of viral infection. Technical or religious books for example had more successful recommendations than general interest topics. Smaller and more tightly knit groups tend to be more conducive to viral marketing.</em></p>
<p>Comment: This one is obvious. Aiming to the lowest common denominator (&#8221;general interests&#8221;) is an area more difficult to incite interests than close-knit communities (&#8221;long tail of communities&#8221;. Or to use a personal-dynamic analogy, general knock-knock jokes (&#8221;as general as you can get&#8221;) aren&#8217;t as funny as the inside jokes among your friends (&#8221;close-knit community&#8221;).</p>
<p>The fascinating aspect of this paper is that its a academic and methodical approach to understanding viral networks as it applies to the online marketing community. Viral networks, network effects, complex systems and the <span id="ViewPost_ascx_PostedBy" />phenomenon of emergence (where this blog draws its name from) has been a hot topic in many fields, including in war studies.</p>
<p>More:</p>
<p>I also recommend reading his blog posting &#8220;<a target="_blank" href="http://h20325.www2.hp.com/blogs/kintz/archive/2006/10/01/1683.html">Blogging Viral Network Effects â€“ Case Study</a>&#8220;</p>


<p>No related posts.</p>
<p>Related posts brought to you by <a href='http://mitcho.com/code/yarpp/'>Yet Another Related Posts Plugin</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.emergence-media.com/2006/10/limits-to-viral-marketing/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>3</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Reality Check on Social Media Marketing and Virals</title>
		<link>http://www.emergence-media.com/2006/08/reality-check-on-social-media-marketing-and-virals/</link>
		<comments>http://www.emergence-media.com/2006/08/reality-check-on-social-media-marketing-and-virals/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 07:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel R</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Viral Marketing]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Word of Mouth]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.emergence-media.com/2006/08/reality-check-on-social-media-marketing-and-virals/</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Introduction
The focus of Emergence Media is to discuss new ways of thinking about online marketing &#8211; from Social Media Optimization to new takes on SEO-PR. Under such an ambitious goal, its important to not be distracted and imbibe too much of the &#8220;Cluetrain Manifesto&#8221; kool-aid. In that spirit, I&#8217;ll point you to two recent postings [...]


No related posts.

Related posts brought to you by <a href='http://mitcho.com/code/yarpp/'>Yet Another Related Posts Plugin</a>.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Introduction</strong></p>
<p>The focus of <em>Emergence Media</em> is to discuss new ways of thinking about online marketing &#8211; from Social Media Optimization to new takes on SEO-PR. Under such an ambitious goal, its important to not be distracted and imbibe too much of the &#8220;<a target="_blank" href="http://www.emergence-media.com/www.cluetrain.com">Cluetrain Manifesto</a>&#8221; kool-aid. In that spirit, I&#8217;ll point you to two recent postings on the blogosphere:</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;<a target="_blank" href="http://okdork.com/2006/08/17/top-5-stupid-trends-of-marketing-20/">Top 5 Stupid Trends of Marketing 2.0</a>&#8221; by Noah Kagan.</strong></p>
<p>A choice excerpt on what is <u>not</u> a marketing plan (by itself):</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>3- You need a blog.</strong> Why? Do you really? Do people really care what your company has to say?</p>
<p><strong>4- <a href="http://digg.com/">Digg</a> will save us.</strong> You get 10,000 visitors one day of horny nerdy computer kids and the next day nothing. I always say relevance is key. Talked with <a href="http://ifindkarma.com/">Adam</a> of <a href="http://renkoo.com/">Renkoo</a> today and he agrees about quality always over quantity.</p>
<p><strong>5- Oh donâ€™t worry, we have a <a href="http://myspace.com/">MySpace</a> Badge.</strong> It appears the new and ultimate trend in marketing is a badge / widget that people can put everywhere. This is okay but not as effective as people think.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong> &#8220;<a target="_blank" href="http://nalts.wordpress.com/2006/08/24/seven-deadly-sins-of-advertising-via-viral-video/">Seven Deadly Sins of Advertising Via Viral Video</a>&#8221; via  WillVideoForFood.com</strong></p>
<p>Excerpt:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>1. Make a white and brown cow.</strong> Seth Godin has a term called â€œPurple Cow,â€ which refers to marketing that is â€œremarkableâ€ and worth paying attention to and talking about. Your viral video better be Technicolor Purple if you actually expect it to break through an increasingly crowded space.<br />
&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>2. Pretend youâ€™re not advertising.</strong> Nothing quite irrates a consumer like being secretly persuaded.<br />
&#8230;<br />
<strong> 3. Spend a fortune on production.<br />
</strong>&#8230;<br />
<strong> 4. Tell consumers instead of engage them.</strong> Donâ€™t think of your viral video as an adaptation of a 60-second spot. Obviously itâ€™s got to be irreverent, weird, funny and different. But more importantly, the web has the ability to make the viral event a dialogue.<br />
&#8230;<br />
<strong> 5. Do a video contest because everyone else is.</strong> This online-video â€œcontest fadâ€ will continue, and it will become more difficult to activate consumers to promote your product.<br />
&#8230;<br />
<strong> 6. Set unrealstic conversion metrics.</strong> After someone watches your video, what do you think theyâ€™ll do? Will 30% come to your site? Will 10% buy your brand in two months? Give me a break.<br />
&#8230;<br />
<strong> 7. Throw in the towel and decide to just advertise around viral videos.</strong> Please donâ€™t give up and decide that itâ€™s easier to simply advertise around videos. There are certainly products and services that can do well through this, but itâ€™s the lazy way to approach online video.<br />
&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p><!--2349f84b0bc52455ea2db19061dbe67a--></p>


<p>No related posts.</p>
<p>Related posts brought to you by <a href='http://mitcho.com/code/yarpp/'>Yet Another Related Posts Plugin</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.emergence-media.com/2006/08/reality-check-on-social-media-marketing-and-virals/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>1</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Agency.com&#8217;s Subway Viral: Why the Hate?</title>
		<link>http://www.emergence-media.com/2006/08/agencycoms-subway-viral-why-the-hate/</link>
		<comments>http://www.emergence-media.com/2006/08/agencycoms-subway-viral-why-the-hate/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 05:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel R</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Social Media]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Strategy]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Viral Marketing]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.emergence-media.com/2006/08/agencycoms-subway-viral-why-the-hate/</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Summary: Agency.com Attempts at &#8220;Rolling Big&#8221;


My co-worker first showed me this video a day or two back, now online marketing folks all over are buzzing (or most likely, dissing) Agency.com&#8217;s Subway viral, which is &#8220;a video of themselves pitching the Subway business as the pitch itself and uploaded it to YouTube.&#8221; (AdRants)
Everyone seems to applaud [...]


Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://www.emergence-media.com/2009/11/fitting-in-social-media-marketing-within-the-agency/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Fitting in Social Media Marketing within the Agency'>Fitting in Social Media Marketing within the Agency</a> <small>For the past few months, I&#8217;ve been rethinking what it...</small></li></ol>

Related posts brought to you by <a href='http://mitcho.com/code/yarpp/'>Yet Another Related Posts Plugin</a>.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Summary: Agency.com Attempts at &#8220;Rolling Big&#8221;<br />
</strong></p>
<div style="text-align: center"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8eV6OuC8Oo"><img alt="When We Roll, We Roll Big" title="When We Roll, We Roll Big" src="/img/blog/agency.com-subway-we-roll-big.jpg" /></a></div>
<p>My co-worker first showed me this video a day or two back, now online marketing folks all over are buzzing (or most likely, dissing) Agency.com&#8217;s Subway viral, which is &#8220;a video of themselves pitching the Subway business as the pitch itself and uploaded it to YouTube.&#8221; (<a target="_blank" href="http://www.adrants.com/2006/08/agencycom-has-hipster-orgasm-on-youtube.php">AdRants</a>)</p>
<p>Everyone seems to applaud Agency.com for its high-risk and daring effort for doing a viral as a pitch for doing a viral (<strong>The Idea</strong>). (Is this like Shakespeare&#8217;s play-with-in-a-play?) But, it seems they&#8217;re unanimous in kicking Agency.com to the ground on how it was done (<strong>The Execution</strong>).</p>
<p><strong>On the Execution</strong>: My opinion on that the content is that yes it is cheesy &#8211; there&#8217;s the line &#8220;When We Roll, We Roll Big&#8221; &#8211; because it is a semi-satire at themselves. Its not a documentary on the inner workings of Agency.com. They embraced the cheesiness with <a href="htttp://www.WhenWeRollWeRollBig.com">www.WhenWeRollWeRollBig.com</a>.</p>
<p><strong>On the Idea</strong>: Steve Rubel comments that &#8220;[putting] Subway&#8217;s brand at risk like this at the expense of winning an account is a bad business decision.&#8221; This is a valid point I have to side on, but this is assuming Agency.com did not have Subway&#8217;s permission.</p>
<p>Agency.com stated: &#8220;When Subway called us with a Request for Information and the option of submitting a video, we snapped. We decided to put it all out there and show them what we actually are&#8221;.</p>
<p>So did they or didnt they? That&#8217;s a major question yet to be answered.</p>
<p><strong>If they did</strong>, they I say kudos to Agency.com for being not only a great risk taker, but the first. Perhaps its not the best viral content, but they put their necks on the line for trying something different. Sure agencies take risks, but how many agencies would make that big of a risk?</p>
<p><strong>If they didnt have permission</strong>, then I would say that Steve is right and I&#8217;d call the viral a bad idea regardless of the strength of the content.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll hear Subway&#8217;s side soon.<br />
<span id="more-28"></span></p>
<p><strong>Agency.com: The Talk of The Internet Marketers Town</strong><br />
Lots of people are calling Agency.com&#8217;s attempt as pathetic &#8211; Logic+Marketing compares it to the Aztec car as an example of bad execution, Steve Rubel calls just plain irresponsible&#8230;but how true are these claims?</p>
<p>Its called muddled, cheesy, bad for Agency.com&#8217;s image &#8211; esp. the bit about how the Agency.com folks proclaimed &#8220;When We Roll We Roll Big.&#8221;</p>
<p>It seems that Agency.com took that and spun it back by setting-up a site called <a target="_blank" href="http://www.whenwerollwerollbig.com">www.WhenWeRollWeRollBig.com</a>, a blog to debate and discuss the viral video. A good move to take advantage of some the negative buzz and also a show of openness.</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://re-frame.info/blog/index.php/2006/08/03/agencycom-create-the-bestworst-pitch-ever-for-the-subway-account/">Paul Adam&#8217;s of Re-Frame Writes</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>[The content of the video] is boring and cheesy at best, patronising and ignorant in places at worst. By jumping on the latest â€˜buzzâ€™ / â€˜fadâ€™ technology bandwagon to promote themselves, they have actually shown that they donâ€™t understand the medium. Also, they project themselves as a hierarchical, reactionary organisation. There was no evidence of strategic thinking &#8211; just some footage of one of the worst â€˜brainstormsâ€™ Iâ€™ve seen. There must be a negative impact on the Agency.com brand?</p></blockquote>
<p>Paul&#8217;s point is valid &#8211; that is, <strong>assuming </strong>the video is supposed to be an accurate representation of Agency.com inner workings. But, I believe its closer to a semi-satirical look at themselves than a documentary. This video was very obviously not meant to a documentary.</p>
<p><strong>Valid Criticisms from Steve Rubel</strong><br />
Most criticisms focused on the execution and content of the video. Steve Rubel puts on some valid points <a target="_blank" href="http://www.whenwerollwerollbig.com/action/2006/8/2/what-did-we-set-out-to-do.html">on the delivery of the video itself:</a></p>
<blockquote><p>First of all, to put Subway&#8217;s brand at risk like this at the expense of winning an account is a bad business decision. Agency.com is holding Subway&#8217;s brand hostage for ransom. If I were the brand manager for Subway I would find this totally offensive.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is a sticky ethical issue for Agency.com and would be an interesting question to ask a Subway executive. Did they have Subway&#8217;s permission. We cant tell from <a target="_blank" href="http://www.whenwerollwerollbig.com/the-reason/">Agency.com&#8217;s statement on the viral</a>.</p>
<p>Indeed, would I like my company being placed in a viral video as part of a pitch without my approval? I am not so sure.</p>
<p><strong>Final Comments</strong><br />
Over at Agency.com&#8217;s &#8220;When We Roll, We Roll Big&#8221; website, a <a target="_blank" href="http://www.whenwerollwerollbig.com/action/2006/8/2/what-did-we-set-out-to-do.html">commenter Jeff writes</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Its pretty amazing to read all these posts on quite a few advertising blogs. And see how &#8211; haters in an effort to say something isn&#8217;t viral &#8211; actually make it viral within the ad community. And make Agency.com&#8230;become more relavent than it&#8217;s ever been in the last 6 years. <strong>Famous or infamous people will debate.</strong> But you guys are making friggin T-shirts for them now. People are taking sides. Love it or hate it &#8211; (people are) passing it around. There&#8217;s chatter (I&#8217;m guessing this is the longest comment string ever for a post), debate and passion. <strong>None of this was happening before they posted their video.</strong>&#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p>The major ethical issue Steve mentioned not withstanding, I would have to agree. Perhaps the execution was poor, but Agency.com took a major leap in experimentation in an era no one has tried before. No one else can claim that level of experimentation or pioneerism because they are the first.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll hear more about this soon, especially Subway&#8217;s reaction.</p>
<p><strong>Links from Around on the Blogosphere<br />
</strong></p>
<blockquote>
<ul>
<li><a target="_blank" href="http://www.adrants.com/2006/08/agencycom-has-hipster-orgasm-on-youtube.php">AdRants: Agency.com Has Hipster Orgasm on YouTube</a></li>
<li><a target="_blank" href="http://darmano.typepad.com/logic_emotion/2006/08/whats_the_big_e.html">Logic+Emotion: What&#8217;s the Big Execution</a></li>
<li><a target="_blank" href="http://re-frame.info/blog/index.php/2006/08/03/agencycom-create-the-bestworst-pitch-ever-for-the-subway-account/">Re-Frame: Agency.com create the best/worst pitch ever</a></li>
<li><a target="_blank" href="http://www.micropersuasion.com/2006/08/agencycoms_irre.html">MicroPersuasion: Agency.com&#8217;s YouTube Pitch is Lame</a></li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<p><!--e8692a5a88b44590cd6cdc6ec18ed3e1--></p>


<p>Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://www.emergence-media.com/2009/11/fitting-in-social-media-marketing-within-the-agency/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Fitting in Social Media Marketing within the Agency'>Fitting in Social Media Marketing within the Agency</a> <small>For the past few months, I&#8217;ve been rethinking what it...</small></li></ol></p>
<p>Related posts brought to you by <a href='http://mitcho.com/code/yarpp/'>Yet Another Related Posts Plugin</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.emergence-media.com/2006/08/agencycoms-subway-viral-why-the-hate/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>6</slash:comments>
		</item>
	</channel>
</rss>
